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The symbol shows the location of the Wrexham Rhos (Wrexham, Wales) transmitter which serves 29,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Wrexham Rhos (Wrexham, Wales) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Wrexham Rhos transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 V max
C28 (530.0MHz)257mDTG-80W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) Wales, 2 BBC Two Wales, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, 250 BBC Red Button, plus 13 others

PSB2
D3+4
 V max
C22 (482.0MHz)257mDTG-80W
Channel icons
5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 South ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (Wales),

PSB3
BBCB
 V max
C25 (506.0MHz)257mDTG-80W
Channel icons
56 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD Wales, 102 BBC Two HD (England), 104 Channel 4 HD South ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 110 Channel 4 HD (Wales), 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Are you trying to watch these 43 Freeview channels?

the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels

The Wrexham Rhos (Wrexham, Wales) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: 4seven, 5Action, 5STAR, 5USA, Al Jazeera Eng, Blaze, Blaze +1, CBS Reality, Challenge, Channel 5 +1, CITV, YAAAS!, Dave, Dave ja vu, DMAX, Drama +1, E4 Extra, Film4 +1, Food Network, GB News, GREAT! movies, GREAT! movies action, HGTV, HobbyMaker, ITV2 +1, ITV3 +1, ITV4 +1, ITVBe +1, Legend, PBS America, pick, Pop Player, Quest +1, Quest Red, Really, Sky News, Smithsonian Channel, Talking Pictures TV, TCC, That's TV (UK), Together TV, W, Yesterday +1.

If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Wrexham Rhos transmitter?

regional news image
BBC Wales Today 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 2YQ, 176km south (185°)
to BBC Wales region - 206 masts.
regional news image
ITV Cymru Wales 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 6XJ, 180km south (186°)
to ITV Wales region - 206 masts.

How will the Wrexham Rhos (Wrexham, Wales) transmission frequencies change over time?

1984-971997-981998-20092009-1331 Mar 2019-
K TK TK TA K TA K T
C22D3+4D3+4
C25C4wavesC4wavesC4wavesBBCBBBCB
C28BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBCABBCA
C32ITVwavesITVwavesITVwaves
C39BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1waves

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 28 Oct 09 and 25 Nov 09.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 200W
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-4dB) 80W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Moel-Y-Parc transmitter area

Sep 1962-Jul 1964Wales (West and North) Television (Teledu Cymru)
Jul 1964-Jul 1968Television Wales and the West
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Harlech Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Wrexham Rhos was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Monday, 30 April 2012
Transmitter engineering
sentiment_very_satisfiedOwner

4:29 AM

WREXHAM-RHOS transmitter - Freeview HD Digital TV Off Air from 05:32 yesterday to 06:14 yesterday HD Digital TV Reduced Quality from 06:29 yesterday to 11:01 yesterday [BBC]

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Transmitter engineering
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8:28 AM

WREXHAM-RHOS transmitter - Freeview HD Digital TV Reduced Quality from 06:29 yesterday to 11:01 yesterday HD Digital TV Off Air from 05:32 yesterday to 06:14 yesterday [BBC]

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Tuesday, 1 May 2012
Transmitter engineering
sentiment_very_satisfiedOwner

4:29 AM

WREXHAM-RHOS transmitter - Freeview HD Digital TV Off Air from 05:32 on 29 Apr to 06:14 on 29 Apr HD Digital TV Reduced Quality from 06:29 on 29 Apr to 11:01 on 29 Apr [BBC]

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Transmitter engineering
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9:28 PM

WREXHAM-RHOS transmitter - Freeview HD Digital TV Reduced Quality from 06:29 on 29 Apr to 11:01 on 29 Apr HD Digital TV Off Air from 05:32 on 29 Apr to 06:14 on 29 Apr [BBC]

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Tuesday, 22 May 2012
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jacqui
10:14 AM

Hi, I can only get about 20 channels on my freeview now. I live in wrexham so have signal from the rhos site. I used to et over a hundred channels before the switchover. My ariel is on the roof but no matter how much i retune i cannot get certain channels at all. what can i do to get more channels.

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Dave Lindsay
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11:37 AM

jacqui: Before switchover the Wrexham Rhos transmitter did not carry Freeview. This means that you must have been receiving it from another transmitter that did. Furthermore, it is likely that the transmitter that you were receiving from was in its pre-switchover mode and therefore lower transmission power (and hence weaker signals) than it uses now (after switchover).

All transmitters that provided Freeview signals before switchover provide the full range of channels after switchover. Ones that did not provide any Freeview before switchover (such as Rhos) broadcast only Public Service channels after switchover (they are sometimes described as "Freeview Lite"/"Freeview Light" transmitters). I assume that you only have the Public Service channels tuned which provides the following services (in Wales): BBC, ITV1, ITV1+1, ITV2, Channel 4, Channel 4+1, S4C, More 4, Channel 5 and the four HD services.


Without knowing your exact location, it is difficult to be quite certain, but in your general area, signals from the Winter Hill transmitter come in well. Winter Hill situated near Bolton and is the main transmitter that serves a large area of North West England. Due to the topography, it be can picked up in parts of North Wales.

What I suggest that you do is attempt tuning of the Commercial channels (the ones that aren't broadcast from Rhos) from Winter Hill. What you do is dependent on the design of your receiver:

1. If it allows manual tuning, then try tuning to UHF channels (equivalent to frequencies) 58, 61 and 55 which are those which Winter Hill broadcasts the Commercial services on.

2. If it does not have manual tuning, then what you can do is more limited. Run the automatic tuning scan with the aerial unplugged up to 60% if its scale shows percentage progress (or if it gives UHF channels as it is scanning, plug it in at C50).

The objective here is to avoid picking up signals from Rhos (which are lower than 60%) and scan Winter Hill channels. This will obviously give you BBC North West and ITV1 Granada from Winter Hill, but the point is more as a test to see what can be received from Winter Hill. See if ITV3, Pick TV and Yesterday are present on logical channel numbers 10, 11 and 12 respectively. For each, bring up the signal strength screen and check to see what UHF channel they are each tuned to. They should read 58, 61 and 55 respectively if they are from Winter Hill.


It may be that the Commercial channels can no longer be picked up with your aerial as it is due to the change in transmission mode which will have a detrimental affect in poor reception circumstances. The fact that your aerial is pointing in the wrong direction and is vertical, whereas Winter Hill's signals are horizontal is clearly reducing your chances.


The objective of the above is to see whether you can pick up some level of service on the Commercial channels (those that you're missing), if for whatever reason, the automatic tuning is missing them out, what with the signals from Rhos presumably being a lot stronger.

If you didn't follow the above, then in short, you "may" be able to receive all Freeview channels and Wales regional programming with a second aerial, probably on Winter Hill.

With the above, I can probably be more specific with knowledge of the make and model of device that you are using, along with your location, preferably in the form of a post code or nearby post code (e.g. shop).

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Stephen P
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12:52 PM

jacqui - need your postcode to know what you should be receiving!

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Tuesday, 9 October 2012
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Philip Osborne
12:31 PM
Wrexham

Hi,

I live in Rhos and I currently use a Sky dish to receive TV because, when I first moved in, it was difficult to receive a good Freeview signal. However, since then the Digital Switchover has been completed in my area and I'm thinking of getting YouView from TalkTalk and they require that I have an aerial. I have a couple of questions:

1. From where I live, Wrexham-Rhos transmitter and Winter Hill transmitter are both in roughly the same direction so could I pick up both signals on the same aerial?

2. I live in a first floor flat with one other flat above me, the front of my flat is on the correct side to face the transmitter, could I put my aerial on the front of my building rather than the roof? Is the signal in my area known to be strong enough to use an indoor or window-mounted aerial?

3. What do you think of multi-directional aerials like the Philex Digidome? Do they work?

Thanks for any advice or help you can offer.

Phil

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Dave Lindsay
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1:58 PM

Philip Osborne: Wrexham Rhos is vertically polarised and Winter Hill is horizontally polarised so unfortunately a single aerial won't work for both.

Try a set-top aerial on each transmitter, manually tuning if possible, and definately confirming that you are watching the output of the transmitter you are testing. I have one of these Labgear aerials for use when a fixed aerial isn't available (other suppliers and models are available):

Set Top Aerial Labgear | eBay


I presume that you already know that Wrexham Rhos is Freeview Lite/PSB-only and that Winter Hill is a full-service transmitter and that this is the reason you wish to be able to receive from both so as to allow you to watch Welsh regional (PSB) programming and the Commercial (COM) channels only available from full-service transmitters.

For all things aerials, see ATV's site A.T.V (Aerials And Television) TV Aerial, DAB Aerial, FM Aerial.

As a non-professional, I would stick with a directional polarised aerial. An aerial's directivity (i.e. gain or sensitivity in one direction) is as the expense of that in others. This is the reason I would stick with a directional aerial.

Also, the gain of yagi aerials slopes down on lower UHF channels/frequencies. These traces illustrate the point:

A.T.V (Aerials And Television) TV Aerial, DAB Aerial, FM Aerial. gaincurves.html

In particular (and this is why I make the point), wideband aerials which are a greater compromise than group ones, are low on group A channels (see the wideband traces). Thus, a high-gain wideband aerial will have a "high" gain on higher channels, but group A ones will not be so. So don't be taken in by buying a wideband yagi aerial for Wrexham Rhos in particular as it uses group A channels.

Log periodic aerials are natively wideband but have a much flatter response and are therefore OK for Group A channels but they don't have as much gain as higher gain yagis.


See:

A.T.V (Aerials And Television) TV Aerial, DAB Aerial, FM Aerial. winterhilltx.html

A diplexer can combine the feeds from two aerials, providing the channels used allow, which for Winter Hill and Wrexham Rhos they are:

A.T.V (Aerials And Television) TV Aerial, DAB Aerial, FM Aerial. onlinesplittersandamps.html#TVTVdiplexers

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Thursday, 11 April 2013
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SARAH
9:45 AM

I've lost all bbc channels will I need to retune my freeview?

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