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The symbol shows the location of the Winter Hill (Bolton, England) transmitter which serves 2,690,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Winter Hill (Bolton, England) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Winter Hill transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C32 (562.0MHz)726mDTG-3100,000W
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1 BBC One (SD) North West, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, 250 BBC Red Button, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C34 (578.0MHz)726mDTG-3100,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV (SD) (Granada), 4 Channel 4 (SD) North ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 North ads, 18 More4, 25 ITV4, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV +1 (Granada),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C35- (585.8MHz)726mDTG-6100,000W
Channel icons
73 Shopping Quarter , 101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV HD (ITV Granada), 104 Channel 4 HD North ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 204 CBBC HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C29 (538.0MHz)726mDTG-8100,000W
Channel icons
 CCXTV, 12 Quest, 20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 42 GREAT! movies action, 45 Channel 5 +1, 56 5SELECT, 58 ITVBe +1, 59 ITV3 +1, 60 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 CBS Reality, 68 Horror Channel, 74 Drama +1, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 203 CITV, 211 Ketchup TV, 212 YAAAS!, plus 16 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C31 (554.0MHz)726mDTG-8100,000W
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11 Sky Arts, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 4Music, 36 pick, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 46 Film4 +1, 47 Challenge, 48 4seven, 57 Smithsonian Channel, 70 Quest +1, 75 Yesterday +1, 83 Together TV, 233 Sky News, plus 9 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C37 (602.0MHz)726mDTG-8100,000W
Channel icons
25 Dave ja vu, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 41 CBS Justice, 44 HGTV, 68 CBS Drama, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 234 RT, 235 Aljazeera English, plus 17 others

LM
 H -20dB
C56 (754.0MHz)572mDTG-121,000W
Channel icons
from 1st October 2014: 7 That's Manchester,

LL
 H -17dB
C56 (754.0MHz)572mDTG-122,000W
Channel icons
from 30th June 2014: 7 Bay TV Liverpool,

LPR
 H -20dB
C56 (754.0MHz)572mDTG-121,000W
Channel icons
from 1st October 2014: 7 That's Lancashire,

com7
 H -5.9dB
C55 (746.0MHz)726mDTG-625,700W
Channel icons
 Together TV +1,  Merit,  Court TV, 65 FreeSports, 71 Quest Red +1, 76 Now 70s, 86 More4 +1, 87 PBS America +1, 91 That's TV , 96 Forces TV, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC News HD, 113 RT HD, 114 Quest HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 2 others

GIM
 H -20dB
C57 (762.0MHz)572mDTG-21,000W
Channel icons
 Spotlight TV, 63 GREAT! movies classic +1, 77 NOW 80s, 79 Now 90s, 80 Clubland TV, 88 Country Music Entertainment , 208 POP MAX,

DTG-3 64QAM 8K 2/3 24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-6 256QAM 32KE 2/3 40.2Mb/s DVB-T2 MPEG4
DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-2 16QAM 2K 3/4 18.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Winter Hill transmitter?

regional news image
BBC North West Tonight 3.1m homes 11.8%
from Salford M50 2QH, 22km southeast (139°)
to BBC North West region - 92 masts.
regional news image
ITV Granada Reports 3.1m homes 11.6%
from Salford M50 2EQ, 22km southeast (139°)
to ITV Granada region - 80 masts.

How will the Winter Hill (Bolton, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1956-80s1984-971997-981998-20092009-1310 Apr 132013-1720 Feb 2020
VHFC/D EC/D EC/D EC/D EC/D E TW TW T
C9ITVwaves
C12BBCtvwaves
C24_local
C29SDN
C31com7com7
C32BBCA
C34D3+4
C35BBCB
C37com8com8
C40LOCAL2
C48C5wavesC5waves
C49tv_off ArqAArqA
C50tv_off BBCABBCA
C54tv_off-BBCB-BBCB-BBCB
C55tv_offBBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesArqBArqBArqBcom7tv_off
C56tv_off_local_local_localLPR
C57tv_offGIMGIMGIMGIM
C58tv_offSDNSDNSDN
C59tv_offITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesD3+4D3+4D3+4
C61ArqA
C62BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBCA
C65C4wavesC4wavesC4waves

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
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Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Nov 09 and 2 Dec 09.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 500kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 100kW
com7(-12.9dB) 25.7kW
com8(-13.4dB) 22.6kW
Analogue 5(-16dB) 12.5kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*(-17dB) 10kW
LL(-24dB) 2kW
GIM, LM, LPR(-27dB) 1000W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Winter Hill transmitter area

May 1956-Jul 1968Granada Television†
May 1956-Jul 1968Associated British Corporation◊
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Granada Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only.

Comments
Tuesday, 2 December 2014
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mazbar
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5:55 PM

H J Hill: The majority of people complaining about com 7 will have an aerial fault or an old banded aerial to cd these will pick up com 7 but not as good as a wideband aerial. Com 7 is also reduced in power compared to other multiplexes, I normally expect about 60 to 65 dbuv of signal on all multiplexes except com 7 with this I expect about 50 to 55 dbuv still more than enough to work I have yet to have a problem. Com 7 isn't broadcast totally omni directional some areas do have black spots. What I seem to see is people just blaming the transmitter but they refuse to have there aerial checked, I spent hundreds of pounds on aerial meter so I can check signal strength and signal quality. It's been said that people all over the area have problems but people all over the North west have aerial problems as well so instead of complaining spend a small amount of money have your aerial checked just for peace of mind.

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jb38
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6:50 PM

mazbar: Re: the issue concerning COM7, I suspect that the problem referred to is concerned with reception in the Settle area.

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H J Hill
7:52 PM

COM7, has transmitted on UHF-31 from Winter Hill for about a year now (since December 2013; I cannot find the exact date).

The drop out problem (in my experience) started about September 2014. I know I shrugged off the initial ones and took no notice, believing them to be freak events; but I've been taking note of it since October. Where for months there was no problem; now there is.

On the web page BBC4 HD winter hill - Freeview - Digital Spy Forums there are people complaining in August 2014 about the drop-outs. And have a look at Mike's comment timed at 2:28 pm today (2 Dec 2014) on this web page.

They are not field measuring equipment, true, but the indicators of "signal strength" and "signal quality" on my one-year-old Panasonic TV and Panasonic PVR/Blu-ray all register the same maximum readings for COM7 that the 100 kW multiplexes achieve. The bit rate error display stays unmoving at "0.00E+00".

It is also true that receivers at the limits of the service area are going to be more sensitive to any brief loss in radiated power than those closer to Winter Hill.

However, the evidence is that this is a transmission problem; not a reception problem.

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MikeB
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9:10 PM

H J Hill: I'm not sure that there is evidence of a 'reception problem'.

You have a Humax and a Panasonic, and in the case of the Panasonic, you say that your getting 100% for both strength and signal quality. You then report a glitch on an HD channel. Since HD problems (including brief 'no signal' messages) are often a sign of too much signal strength (see 'too much of a good thing' on this site), and you report 100% strength, whereas perhaps 75-80% would be ideal, that would normally be a sound diagnosis. You have Humax and Panasonic, two brands known to have sensitive tuners, and I notice on the Digital Spy page you linked to, the complainents who said what their equipment was, tended to say Humax.

You havn't given us a postcode, so we have no idea where you are in relation to the transmitter, but its certainly possible, even though Com 7 is supposed to have low power, that your signal is simply too powerful for the tuners. Also remember that different tuners (even of the same brand) can react slightly differently - my father-in-law has both a Panasonic G10 LCD TV and a Panasonic 720 PVR. The TV has slight problems with too high a signal strength (they have a mast head amp which they can't switch off), but the PVR suffers far more.

Mike seems to have a similar problem, and again, 100% signal strength, the same kind of glitch, and at least one Humax.

Try getting an attentuator or two (you can put them in series). See if they work. They are really cheap, so its worth a try. I suspect that might cure the problem. As Mazbar points out, he hasn't noticed any problems, and since, as you've said, the transmitter serves some 7 million people, if there were serious faults, wouldn't complaints be more widespread?

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Mike
9:28 PM

mazbar: You are just mouthing cliches without observing the facts. You have not apparently seen this fault so you say it doesn't exist, yet many have. So your explanation is that you are correct and every one else must have faulty aerials/equipment? Has it occurred to you that you've simply missed this effect that is irritating so many? Explain to us how one can be receiving a mux at good strength and 100% quality only for it to switch off like a light for one or two seconds, and then recover at full strength and quality immediately. Is that an aerial problem that you are familiar with, that affects one mux specifically? There is a fault with the signal from Com7 WH for certain areas and sticking your head in the sand won't help those of us who are getting fed up with it.
Mike.

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Mike
9:40 PM

MikeB: I never said anything about 100% signal level: I said the postcode checker gave the area as a good signal area (100%). My actual aerial signal is around 75% although that's arbitrary as all brands measure it differently . However it would be interesting to have explained to me how a half-power mux is causing overload when all the full-power muxes are received with absolutely no trouble?
Mike.

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Wednesday, 3 December 2014
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MikeB
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12:01 AM

Mike: Fine, I'm just trying to diagnose a problem based on the evidence available. However, if there is a problem with Com 7 from that transmitter, what is it, and why is it only manifesting itself to some people?


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jb38
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12:25 AM

H J Hill : Although many others may well have reported a similar problem to yourself with regards to experiencing intermittent signal drop outs on Winter Hills COM7 transmitter, the fact of them residing in other areas is not necessarily always the best way of proving a point, as other factors of misleading nature can apply applicable to their particular locality.

However, much as I doubt if your installation is in any way to blame, a way of positively determining whether it is or not is simply by making one or two local enquiries, much as I fully appreciate that many people are loathe about having to resort to this, and of course sometimes with good reason!.

But though, should the result of any local enquiry reveal that others in your immediate area are also experiencing difficulties with reception from COM7, then your installation is instantly out of the equation as far as any suspicion of a slightly over the top signal is concerned, as it would be an immense coincidence for this type of thing to affect two separate installations, this to the extent that it can safely by taken as something that doesn't happen.




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Mike
1:10 AM

MikeB: I don't have answers to those questions: all I know is that after a number of us complained in October Arquiva said they were "looking into it and viewers could expect an improvement soon." Which means there was a fault,or so I interpret it. That same fault is ongoing, in fact as I type this on the Nexus I've just seen MotorsTV glitch, which makes three times in the last hour. All my kit is on a mains filter, and anyway I never get any problems ever with any other MUX. The two Humax receivers have, I believe, different tuner chips but both exhibit the same behaviour. The original complaints came from all over the NW and involved Humax, Sony and Panny equipment so it wasn't just isolated cases. I am simply trying to get this resolved one way or another because it's frustrating having HD recordings messed up by this glitch, which has been going on for long enough.
Mike.

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Ray Parry
2:33 PM
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