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The symbol shows the location of the Ladder Hill (Derbyshire, England) transmitter which serves 6,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Ladder Hill (Derbyshire, England) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Ladder Hill transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 V max
C26 (514.0MHz)452mDTG-3200W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) North West, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, 250 BBC Red Button, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 V max
C23 (490.0MHz)452mDTG-3200W
Channel icons
3 ITV (SD) (Granada), 4 Channel 4 (SD) North ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 North ads, 18 More4, 25 ITV4, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV +1 (Granada),

PSB3
BBCB
 V max
C29 (538.0MHz)452mDTG-6200W
Channel icons
73 Shopping Quarter , 101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV HD (ITV Granada), 104 Channel 4 HD North ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 204 CBBC HD, plus 1 others

DTG-3 64QAM 8K 2/3 24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-6 256QAM 32KE 2/3 40.2Mb/s DVB-T2 MPEG4
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Are you trying to watch these 52 Freeview channels?

the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels

The Ladder Hill (Derbyshire, England) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: 4Music, 4seven, 5Action, 5SELECT, 5STAR, 5USA, Aljazeera English, BBC Four HD, BBC News HD, Blaze, Blaze +1, CBeebies HD, CBS Drama, CBS Justice, CBS Reality, Challenge, Channel 5 +1, CITV, Dave, Dave ja vu, DMAX, Drama +1, Film4 +1, Food Network, Forces TV, FreeSports, GB News, GREAT! movies, GREAT! movies action, HGTV, Horror Channel, ITV2 +1, ITV3 +1, ITV4 +1, ITVBe +1, YAAAS!, More4 +1, Now 70s, PBS America +1, pick, Quest +1, Quest Red, Quest Red +1, Really, RT HD, Sky Arts, Sky News, Smithsonian Channel, Talking Pictures TV, TCC, Together TV, Yesterday +1.

If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Ladder Hill transmitter?

regional news image
BBC North West Tonight 3.1m homes 11.8%
from Salford M50 2QH, 29km northwest (310°)
to BBC North West region - 92 masts.
regional news image
ITV Granada Reports 3.1m homes 11.6%
from Salford M50 2EQ, 29km northwest (310°)
to ITV Granada region - 80 masts.

How will the Ladder Hill (Derbyshire, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1984-971997-981998-20092009-1331 Mar 2018-
A K TA K TA K TA K TA K T
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesD3+4D3+4
C26BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBCABBCA
C29C4wavesC4wavesC4wavesBBCBBBCB
C33BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1waves

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Nov 09 and 2 Dec 09.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000W
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Winter Hill transmitter area

May 1956-Jul 1968Granada Television†
May 1956-Jul 1968Associated British Corporation◊
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Granada Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Ladder Hill was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Thursday, 5 April 2012
Briantist
sentiment_very_satisfiedOwner

11:50 AM

Mick Dawn: You could download IE9 which does support it, there is no "HTM5" upgrade for IE8. Or use Chrome, Safari or Firefox...

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Briantist's 38,844 posts GB
Thursday, 5 July 2012
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shauna
5:38 PM
High Peak

our aerial is on the side of our house when will we be able to get the new channel four channel and any of the others we do not receive at the moment

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Mark Fletcher
sentiment_satisfiedGold

6:55 PM
High Peak

Shauna.High Peak,SK23 9TX.
If your aerial is vertically polarised facing Ladder Hill relay the answer is no you will not receive the new four seven (47) station on programme channel 47 on Freeview as this is carried on the ArqB multiplex on main transmitters and major relays only.
Ladder Hill is a freeview lite relay only broadcasting the PSB multiplexes BBCA,D3+4 and BBCB (HD) multiplexes (the latter only receivable via DVB-T2 tuners),it does not and will not never,ever broadcast COM multiplexes SDN,ArqA and ArqB multiplexes as such.The only way you can receive four seven (47) is to diplex your current vertically polarised Ladder Hill aimed aerial (group A relay,is it coloured red at its tips),with a second horizontally polarised aerial aimed either at Emley Moor (yellow tipped group B),or again polarised horizontally aimed at Winter Hill (either green tipped group C/D or brown tipped semi-wideband group E aerial).
That is the only way you can receive four seven (47).

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Mark Fletcher's 673 posts GB
Tuesday, 25 September 2012
P
Parsley
8:40 PM
High Peak

We get only Freeview Lite from the Chinley transmitter. However my neighbours (20 m down the hill) say they have switched their aerials to Ladder Hill and get full Freeview. This appears to be impossible according to the information here! The aerial engineer who was here last week also said no not possible but they clearly do! He was unable to get a signal from Winter Hill. Any idea what is going on?

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jb38
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

9:27 PM

Parsley: Chinley and Ladder Hill are the only two Freeview PSB only stations indicated to cover your area, and so I am afraid your neighbours are incorrect in what they have said regarding Ladder Hill.

However anything that they may have managed to receive could possibly be from either Emley Moor (22mls) or Winter Hill (31 mls), but I feel that this good fortune (if true) is very likely only because of a spell of favourable atmospheric conditions, as although in most cases these conditions usually kill reception for many there are cases where the reverse applies, but though with all reception achieved this way the signals are liable to vanish at some point just as quick as they were received.

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Dave Lindsay
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9:34 PM

Parsley: Around 8.5% of the population that can receive Freeview can only get the Public Service (PSB) channels. The Commercial ones cover 90% of the population.

The reason for this is because the Commercial broadcasters use the 81 largest transmitters (largest by viewer population). There are over 1,000 small "filler-in" relay transmitters like Chinley and Ladder Hill and these only carry Public Service channels. The projected cost to the Commercial broadcasters to transmit from these 1,000 plus sites is about the same as that of the current 81. They decided that they didn't wish to double their cost of transmission in order to increase their potential viewer-bases by about 10%.


Coverage predictors should always be taken with a pinch of salt. They exist because there is a demand for such a service and not because they can ever be totally accurate. The best gauge of whether a signal can be received at a particular location is for an installer to measure the signal.

As I say, Ladder Hill is also Freeview Lite/PSB-only.

Because of the terrain of your area there are quite a few relays which are PSB-only. Also, what can and can't be received can vary over short distances and this could be the case here.

In the North West/Winter Hill transmitter group, the full-service transmitters are Winter Hill, Pendle Forest, Saddleworth Moor, Lancaster and Storeton.

If you do decide to approach another installer, bear in mind that you may have to be prepared to have a large aerial mounted on a tall mast, perhaps with a mast-head amplifier as well in order to receive from Winter Hill ***"if"*** it is indeed possible. Also, trees in the way could kill any chance of picking up such weak signals unless the aerial can "see" over them.

Winter Hill is at 310 degrees and aerials are horizontal (elements flat). For Chinley and Ladder Hill aerials are vertical.

If your neighbours have switched their aerial, then perhaps they would recommend the installer who carried out the work.

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Dave Lindsay
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

9:59 PM

Parsley: jb38 makes a very good point that Winter Hill could be intermittent. If you do manage reception from a full-service transmitter, then I suggest that you retain your aerial on Chinley as a backup.

Perhaps you can check the direction of your neighbour's aerial.

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Parsley
10:44 PM
High Peak

Thanks for the replies. There is no doubt neighbours do indeed have full Freeview, - will ask since when but certainly weeks, maybe months, so it does not seem intermittent or freak weather-dependent. The aerials are oriented horizontally not vertically, but I haven't yet taken an exact orientation. It was a DIY job. When the weather improves I will also try moving my aerial round.

However I have now got Freesat but now wondering if I needed to!

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Parsley
10:55 PM
High Peak

PS Very oddly the direction my installer insisted on looking for Winter Hill was in the SE, despite my gently pointing out that I was sure it was almost exactly the opposite direction (with a big hill in the way)! But he was adamant.

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Parsley
11:01 PM
High Peak

PPS Is it possible to tell simply which transmitter one is receiving from?

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