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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - DAB: Slightly reduced power due to a fault from 2 Dec 12:01 until 2 Dec 19:05. . FM: Slightly reduced power due to a fault from 2 Dec 12:01 until 2 Dec 19:05. . BBC


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-3200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, 250 BBC Red Button, plus 15 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-3200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 25 ITV4, 29 E4 +1, 34 ITV +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C48- (689.8MHz)324mDTG-6200,000W
Channel icons
72 Shopping Quarter , 101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 204 CBBC HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
 CCXTV, 12 Quest, 20 Drama, 21 5USA, 28 ITV2 +1, 31 5STAR, 32 Paramount Network, 41 GREAT! movies action, 45 Channel 5 +1, 55 5SELECT, 57 ITVBe +1, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 63 Blaze, 66 CBS Reality, 68 Horror Channel, 73 Drama +1, 77 TCC, 80 Blaze +1, 203 CITV, 211 Ketchup TV, 212 YAAAS!, plus 15 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Arts, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 30 4Music, 35 pick, 39 Quest Red, 42 Food Network, 46 Film4 +1, 47 Challenge, 48 4seven, 56 Smithsonian Channel, 69 Quest +1, 74 Yesterday +1, 82 Together TV, 233 Sky News, plus 9 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
23 Dave ja vu, 26 Yesterday, 33 GREAT! movies, 38 DMAX, 40 CBS Justice, 43 HGTV, 67 CBS Drama, 81 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 234 RT, 235 Aljazeera English, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C29 (538.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

com7
 H -6.7dB
C55 (746.0MHz)324mDTG-643,100W
Channel icons
 Together TV +1,  Merit, 64 FreeSports, 70 Quest Red +1, 76 Now 70s, 86 More4 +1, 87 PBS America +1, 89 Court TV, 96 Forces TV, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC News HD, 113 RT HD, 114 Quest HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 2 others

DTG-3 64QAM 8K 2/3 24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-6 256QAM 32KE 2/3 40.2Mb/s DVB-T2 MPEG4
DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 11km north-northwest (334°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C48BBCB
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Sunday, 8 April 2018
NICKADSLUK
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8:18 PM

MikeP:
I fully understand that mike but where I am near Gatwick my Samsung tv new has to preform at 85 percent minimum for both strength and quality and a wideband aerial in the loft wont reach that level
ok for a Panasonic and Sony tv but not lg or Samsung

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Monday, 9 April 2018
MikeP
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1:51 PM

Nickadsluk:

Then you either have too small an aerial or need an adjustable amplifier.



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NICKADSLUK
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9:28 PM

i just wished I lived you mike as our local guy although good he struggles in my house for some reason

what high gain wideband aerial would you recommend forget the cost I need to say to my guy look here it is can you fix it in the loft I don't wont him struggling in the loft with a load of rubbish and then having for him to do it again at another time

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Tuesday, 10 April 2018
MikeP
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12:52 PM

NICKADSLUK:

I use a Log 36 (the modern version of a Log 40 wideband Log-periodic aerial) from ATV`s Choice Of Aerials for digital TV Other suppliers are available. It works perfectly for us as we are some miles away from the Mendiop transmitter.



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NICKADSLUK
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8:07 PM

Thank you mike :)

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Thursday, 12 April 2018
J
Jean
7:36 PM

Hi,

When we first moved to Dorking we could get TV reception. After we were told to move, we could not get TV coverage.

Now 14 years later, we have gone and bought a Smart TV. Our TV worked as a digital. Now after 4 months our TV says .....Weak / No signal.

We know there is nothing wrong with our aerial.....can our TV be turned off from Crystal Palace, Reigate or Dorking.

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NICKADSLUK
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8:57 PM

MikeP: my aerial dealer only uses triax any good mike ? he has no knowledge of log aerials' that's typical of where I live no one knows nothing about what they should be knowing and yet he makes a good living out of it

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MikeB
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9:03 PM

Jean: How do you know there is nothing wrong with your aerial?

If you were getting a useable digital signal before, you should get one now. The only changes could be:

A) the tuner in the new tv could slightly less powerful than the one before

B) you have accidently tuned into the wrong transmitter

C) your aerial system has a problem - check all leads etc.

It could well be that what you are missing is the muxes that moved because your aerial is now out if group, or that your tv has a software fault.

But the most likely reason is that you have a weak signal because you have a problem with your aerial. If you put your postcode into the site, you can see what sort of signal you are supposed to get, and then people can go from there.

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Friday, 13 April 2018
MikeP
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12:25 PM

NICKADSLUK:

Triax are good aerials and perhaps worth trying, I have only old experience with them back in analogue days. That your aerial installer has no knowledge of log-periodic aerials shows he is not worth using because of his limited knowledge.

I would suggest asking other aerial contractors and see if they know anything about log-periodic aerials. Else you could buy one yourself and have a contractor fit it for a smallish charge.

Log-periodic aerials have been in use for many years since long before the digital switchover. I used to work as a TV field service engineer in Nottinghamshire and many were used for reception from Waltham and Belmont transmitters, as well as the Nottingham relay. Before that I worked in Surrey and met many of them there used on Crystal Palace, Reigate and Croydon transmitters. So they are nothing new but provide reliable reception even when 'the powers that be' change the channels used by the transmitters.



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NICKADSLUK
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9:55 PM

MikeP: indeed mike and many thanks. I will purchase it and he can fit it. he installed a Technomate sat for me a couple of years back which was my idea and that works well albeit the wind taking it of course a fraction so he has to keep coming back once a year to realign it

it can't be helped as it's in direct firing line westerly hitting the sat head on and cant go anywhere else because of a wall of trees such is life (lol)



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