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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter.

Choose from three options: ■ List by multiplex ■ List by channel number ■ List by channel name
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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, 250 BBC Red Button, plus 15 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
56 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 109 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! movies action, 46 Channel 5 +1, 58 ITVBe +1, 59 ITV3 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 CBS Reality, 74 Dave ja vu, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 89 ITV4 +1, 203 CITV, 208 POP MAX, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, plus 14 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Arts, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 pick, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 57 Smithsonian Channel, 60 Drama +1, 70 Quest +1, 75 Yesterday +1, 83 Together TV, 233 Sky News, plus 9 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 W, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 71 Quest Red +1, 73 HobbyMaker, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 88 Classic Hits, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 19 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 11km north-northwest (334°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Wednesday, 27 April 2011
M
Mick
10:11 AM
Leigh-on-sea

Hi
I had a new aerial fitted (to the chimney stack) when i had (the now defunct)
On-Digtal installed some years back.
It was pointed towards Bluebell hill instead of Crystal palace like the old aerial did.
I can see on your map that where i live is in the green reception area and CP is in the full strength Yellow.
Should i realign my aerial to CP to get an improved signal?. I live in Southend,SS9 2TF

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Mike Dimmick
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

12:08 PM

Mick: Digital UK's predictor gives you a slightly better chance of receiving all six multiplexes reliably from Bluebell Hill rather than from Crystal Palace, both now and after switchover.

DUK's predictor is based on better information - that the broadcasters won't release, or which costs a big chunk of money - than this site.

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Mike Dimmick's 2,486 posts GB
Thursday, 28 April 2011
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Malcolm Morris
2:58 PM

Hi Briantist,

I wrote several weeks ago to complain about freeview reception problems from Crystal Palace for our house and those of our neighbours. The problem has slowly been getting worse and so I recently mapped the signal path on Google Earth. It appears hat the path from the the transmitter is on a direct line of a nearby and still under construction block of flats and I think this may be the problem.

What are the rules & regulations regarding blockage of signals by a new building and do we have any claim on the builder of the new block to remedy the loss of signal? Sadly, this appears to be a problem that will not go away of its own accord.

Many thanks,

Malcolm Morris

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Malcolm Morris's 3 posts GB
Briantist
sentiment_very_satisfiedOwner

5:03 PM

Malcolm Morris: Under certain circumstances, if a building is built in the path between you and the transmitter, the developer is required to "make good" your reception.

From memory, you will need to have been resident at your address for some time, and you will also have to provide proof (your mapping you have done) to show that the new building has created a shadow.

I can't remember if you contact the developer directly, or if you make a representation via the council planning office. I would suggest you give the latter a call, as they will be able to give you up to date advice.

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Briantist's 38,844 posts GB
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AndyH
11:47 PM

CP to BR5 2--. When we first bought our iDTV (4+ years ago) and had a new Band A Yaggi roof aerial fitted by an approved installer, we received all the MUXs perfectly. Then, for a brief period, we had on-off problems with MUX 2 followed by good reception on all again.

About 6 months ago, we got "no signal" indication on MUX2 and MUXA, which I thought could be dues to a reduction in power listed on the CP Page of this site.

Then, in the last week reception on MUX1 has become "bad signal", with locked pictures and no sound on and off, and still "no signal" on MUX2 and MUXA

Switching to Analogue gives perfect C4 and C5 reception, but very bad BBC1 or 2. ITV1 is not bad, but not as good as C4 or C5.

Our aerial doesn't appear to have revolved on the mast, but could have done by a very small amount. Before I call in an installer to check, is there any other reason related to CP transmitter that may cause the problem?

Obviously, if there's a new "Hi-rise" or crane between us and CP there's not much I can do.

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AndyH's 7 posts GB
Saturday, 30 April 2011
R
Raf
2:16 PM
Staines

Hello, Postcode TW19 7RL. I am also affected by the sudden loss of signal quality on MUX 2 and MUX A - which overnight resulted in loss of these channels (well, extreme pixillation infact) on my Panasonic plasma TV (Freeview tuner), but thankfull not my Panasonic HD recorder's tuner.
Why has this been done without any warning?
I also purchased a Freeview HD recorder for the world cup, when it worked fine, but lost those HD channels altogether a week (?) after the cup. I note that Crystal Palace transmits HD at "below average". Is this all suddenly going to improve on the switchover next April? For now, is changing from a "digital-approved" to "top-of-the-range" aerial (mounted 25m up, on the roof) going to improve things before then? Your comments are sought.

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Raf's 2 posts GB
Monday, 2 May 2011
K
KMJ,Derby
sentiment_satisfiedGold

5:54 PM

Raf:According to the Digital UK postcode checker you are in an area of good reception for Crystal Palace. After switchover signals will be 200kW, ten times stronger than at present. The HD mux will be twenty times stronger. You should have no difficulty at all after switchover unless you increase the signal strength now to such a level that you end up with too much signal when the 200kW transmitters enter service. It is possible that your HD reception at present is receiving interference from Reigate.Your tv possibly requires a slightly stronger signal than the HD recorder to work properly.If you do replace the aerial a group A type yagi, carefully aligned should be all you need. Of course cables and connectors should be checked first for damage/poor contact.You mentioned signal quality being poor on the tv. What is the quality like on the HD recorder? Does connecting the aerial direct to the tv make a difference?

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KMJ,Derby's 1,811 posts GB
Tuesday, 3 May 2011
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kieran r
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

5:23 PM
Basingstoke

i am having problems with CP all mux apart from mux c and 2 the rest said contents scrambled i dont know what it means i searched for interfearence b ut non i thingk some of u know my zip code but rg23 8ds in basingstoke i dont live in america if u think that i do

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kieran r's 32 posts GB
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Mike Dimmick
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

6:50 PM

kieran r: The prediction at your address continues to be rubbish. They are percentage probabilities and no reason to suppose that problems will occur on all multiplexes at the same time, but averaged over the year it's expected that you'll have more problems with Mux A, C and D than with 1, 2 and B.

There's still nothing you can do about it, as you have said before that the recommended transmitter - Hannington - is not possible due to the trees to your west. My recommendation is still, if you can't do anything about the trees, to get satellite or cable.

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Mike Dimmick's 2,486 posts GB
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botus
10:01 PM
Slough

Hi in the last 8 days all channels from the crystal palace have had a signal drop of circa 30% except all HD channels which are fine

I'm at SL2 2NN my brother 1 mile north in east burnham is also having problems... he noticed exact same time you changed or adjusted the transmitter although he believes its on "channel 25" which I guess he means the multiplex

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